I've been using a CardExpert/Gainward GF3 for about 6 months and still love it. I put a geForce3 Ti200 in my SOP's new system and I'll tell ya...it's AWESOME! I'm totally impressed with it. It's running with an Athlon 1700XP and the graphics actually seem a nudge nicer than my card. The clock speed is only 175, so if yer looking fer bigger, faster, top of the line, the Ti500's yer baby. If ya want nice performance at a more reasonable price, do the Ti200 or regular GF3.