Absolutely amazing is all I can say about the ease of installing and using this distro of Linux. Several years ago I played around with Redhat 6.2 and the differences are astounding. Everything was done in the GUI and I didn't have to drop down to the command line once. My gosh it looks like Windows. LOL I was able to access the internet, my home network, whatever I wanted. Heck the updating of the kernal was all done for me, I feel almost useless. <g> Mucho cool, I plan on working with Linux a lot more now. Just thought I'd post my excellent results.

Did you buy a distro package or is it a freebee down load of ISO's?

Paul

The freebie download.

where can I explore this freebie download? And is it legal?

Visit the Basement

http://www.novell.com/products/linuxprofessional/downloads/suse_linux/index.html

Grogan

I dont understand how to download this... I come to like directories with all kind of links to files... like I386, APX and others.... Like a bunch of stuff. Dont know what to do with that?

Is there a place to just download a few image files that I can burn to CD-r and then install from there?

I would like to get this!

EDIT: I found what I needed. I am downloading the 3.1 GB DVD install
disk ISO.... Just what I wanted... thanks for the link Grogan
I hope I can get this up and running soon.

Garbru

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Well, I tried to DL twice using WS_FTP and both times got to the end and a notice failed to reconnect and nothing. What am I doing wrong?

ed: Trying another route from a mirrior and a direct transfer in WS_FTP Pro. Seems to be running at 550 KBps. Not bad for a connection but it's still one and a half hours.

Check the md5sum of the file, your download probably did complete. Some ftp clients seem to hang at the end of a file transfer, on some ftp servers. Incompatibilities.

I've had this happen many times and the file has always been intact.

Another thing you can do is, connect to the same server and attempt to download the file to the same directory. It should resume (nothing to resume) and connect and immediately go to completion.

Grogan

Can't find it anywhere on the PC and you're way past me on the chesksum thing. I thought I DLd that, too, but it is no where in the directory.I don't know what to do with it anyway.

I'm transferring now a file titled live-cd-9.2 about 3.5 GB, I hope that's the right one.

Well... if you're downloading operating system ISO images, you really should check md5sums before attempting to install.

You need to get a program called md5sum.exe to check md5sums. Here's a convenient little howto, with links to download the md5sum program.

http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html

If you have a md5sum file, you can also invoke md5sum like this. For this discussion let's say the md5sum file is called MD5SUMS. It will contain lines like this

66c9578787b9a49d04e9c64ed95c0785 README.txt
ab648822abbd89906adb66f7cddd6bc2 SUSE-Linux-9.2-FTP-DVD.iso
7d70caf05f533bd4827fa3e485667146 SUSE-Linux-9.2-mini-installation.iso

(note, there must be two spaces between the md5sum hash and the filename. This forum will strip out the extra space)

If you were to type (from the directory where the md5sum file and the ISO are)

md5sum -c MD5SUMS

It would compare the sums against the file and report "OK" if they match. It would report failure, file not found for any files not present. So in your case, if you only downloaded the one ISO, it's going to report OK for that, and failure for the other two files that you don't have.

Now...

Does ws_ftp not create the file you're downloading as it's being downloaded? The file should be in the directory you downloaded it to. If it creates a temporary file elsewhere and moves it on completion or never writes it as a file until completion, it's a very stupid ftp client. That's what web browsers do, and why I hate them for downloading.

Lastly, no, the "livecd" is not at all the same thing. It's a bootable ISO that runs the OS Live from the DVD media (using ramdrive trickery for the root filesystem), it's not an installation CD.

Grogan

I felt the same about the Ubuntu disc I got in the mail. Everything was ready to go after installation.

Is this a free version or a trial version?

Well it looks like it says that it is a trial version.

There is one that you can run from a DVD to test
another that you can install but still they seem to be both listed as
a trial version. Which well I was hopeing for a full version... but if
I can instal the trial and come to like it then I would go
out and purchase it.
Garbru

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Garbru, it's the full version. It found and installed drivers for everything on the computer, even my MX1000 Logitech mouse. And the online update downloaded and installed updated drivers for my Nvidia 6800 GT video card. I just can't get over how easy it is. I used Grub for the boot loader instead of LILO as I didn't want any of the other MBR's fiddled with. It took minimal setting changes to connect to my home network, almost easier than with XP actually. I'm not that crazy about the KDE GUI and may check out and see if I can use Gnome instead. It comes with Gimp and a CD-R/RW, and DVD writer. If you haven't messed with Linux in a while you owe it to yourself to check it out.

>I used Grub for the boot loader instead of LILO as
>I didn't want any of the other MBR's fiddled with.

Well, Grub also has to install its component to the MBR unless you're using a third party boot manager in which case you'd install to the superblock (you can do the same with Lilo). Only one MBR is ever fiddled with. That of your boot drive, or the one you specify in the configuration file. It's a common misconception that Grub is somehow better than Lilo when in fact Grub is more complex and less useful (to me, anyway). LILO no longer cares about the 1024th cylinder limitation, that was old versions, years ago. The only real advantage nowadays over a modern Lilo is that Grub only needs to write to the MBR once. If you make changes you only need to edit the configuration file and reboot whereas with LILO you need to reinstate it every time you make a change. Grub is a higher level thing.

What I don't like about Grub is that it needs to have filesystem drivers. LILO just physically maps to the sectors where the map file and kernel image are. If your running Linux kernel supports the filesystem at mapping time (e.g. reiser4, XFS, JFS or any other filesystem that Linux can run natively on) you can boot a kernel from it. Not so with Grub unless specific filesystem support is provided.

These are the advantages listed:

GRUB contains its own little command shell, for passing in or editing commands at boot time.

Whoopee doo, you can step through LILO as well if you know the commands. In my opinion Grub's command shell is no easier to understand.

GRUB reads filesystems and kernel executables, rather than inflexibly restricting the user to disk geometry.

As I outlined above, I consider this more of a limitation unless you want to boot a Linux kernel from a FAT or FFS (*BSD filesystem). It doesn't matter anymore. For running Linux on FAT, "Syslinux" is a better boot system anyway.

GRUB does not need to be restarted after making configuration changes.

This is good, but Grub's configuration file has a higher yuck factor which to me offsets this advantage.

I've been compiling kernels for years (since 2000 when I needed to get my parallel port Zip drive working in Corel Linux's 2.2 kernel). I build kernels on servers too and some of them use Grub. One thing I like about Grub used on a server is that the configuration file can have a "fallback" directive added to automatically boot a chosen (e.g. previous) kernel if something is wrong with the configuration stanza. It doesn't save you from a bad kernel, but does save you from an editing mistake, or if somehow the one kernel image gets deleted.

Nowadays I build my own Linux systems from scratch so it's always LILO on my system.

But none of this shit matters to you guys who just want your system to boot. It wouldn't matter which bootloader you use. Just don't go away thinking that Grub is magically better.

Grogan

Great that is sweet that it is the full version!!!... from the download page it looked like it was listed as a trial. I tried to download the install DVD ISO last night but the connection broke so I woke up to a 1.4 file instead of the
3.1 gig file that I need. Well I am going to have to get a download manager of some kind for this download and try again tonight.
But YES I have always been very attracted to SUSE and have been wanting to give it a shot, and after reading about the updated 9.2 version it seems like this will be a good time to try it out. Also I now have 2 PCs in my house so I will use my second PC to just comletely install SUSE on it... no double boot on it. Just SUSE man! whoo hooo. I didnt have 2 PCS the last time I tried linux, and I went through some annoyances with the boot loaders in sual boot.... I believe I tried both Lilo and grub... grub if I remember was the one that finnally worked for me in a dual boot with W2k.

Well anyway I am really happy to try this out... I will get this installed some point this week. I have read that you can network with
XP on it? am I right with that? My main PC has XP pro on it and my second system is waiting for SUSE and they are both networked together thorugh a D-link router via cat5 cable. I am hopeing I can get suse on my second system and then network with XP and be able to access some files.. a few Mp3's and so on. This will be really cool and If I can pull all of this it will be a great learning experience.

Anysuggestions on donwload managers??
I have a DVD burner so I can download and then burn to DVD and then that should be a nice way to install.


Garbru

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Yep, it has the capabilities to partiticipate on a Microsoft network. It might even work right out of the box

Grogan

Yes Garbru, networking with a Windows system is pretty much a piece o' cake. I can connect with my home network very easily. It took a bit of fiddling with the SUSE firewall and had to ping my network, but after that it came right up. I restarted the firewall and all is well. I started out with the KDE GUI and am now playing with the Gnome. Gnome installs with Firefox and Gimp which I like.

Thank you for the info on LILO and Grub, Grogan. I was unaware of the difference, complete newbie doncha know. I seem to have had problems with LILO when I tried Linux several years ago and was hesitant to retry it. The main thing I was worried about is that it would mess up the MBR if I moved Linux to another partition.

Garbru you're gonna love this distro, I'm sure of it.

Yes, this is sweet I got myslef a download manager today and downloaded the DVD ISO install file. And I just burnt it to DVD so I have the image all set to go!

Sweet. I will start the install probably tomorrow.. I have to take a DVD
drive out of system 1 and put it in system 2 and then I will begin the fun. This is great.

thanks for the help. I should certainly have this thing installed
soon.
Garbru

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I just got finished doing an FTP install in VMware.

Indeed, Windows networking worked right out of the box. I disabled the firewall during the install (I hate stuff like that and I use a Netgear firewall anyways) so I had no problems. I just clicked on Network Browsing, chose Windows Network and there was my workgroup, which led to the running PCs that have SMB services. Ladynorth is Dad's Windows XP Home Ed. computer upstairs and Nicetry is a Slackware Linux box that I use mostly as a file server.

Grogan

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Man that is sweet.
I cant wait to get this running. My second PC will be entirely suse, no dual boot. I think it will be ok hardware wise.
Its an AMD 1900 XP proc with 512mb ram and so other goodies.

I think it will make a nice Linux station
I will get that installed today if everything goes well.

thanks for the help.
Im really happy after reading about the improvemnets in WINE as
well.... because there will be a few MS program I will want to
try on the linux box.

SWEET

Garbru

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This isn't the world of Windows commercial software. They offer you the real thing as a trial. It doesn't expire or anything. You aren't even the target of this, they couldn't care less if you download and use this for free. They are hoping you are someone who makes purchasing decisions in a corporation.

Grogan

I'm downloading the DVD version now. I assume from what I'm reading that everything will be included for a complete install, but is this just an evaluation version that will need to be registered or paid for in order to get full use?

Will this set up a dual boot option like Mandrake does?

Thanks,

Paul

Last questions, for now anyhow. I have just moved some partitions around and will be using PM 8.0 to delete my old Mandrake partition. How should I set up the new partition for SuSe? Should it be just Linux or Linux EXT3? I can do whatever easily with PM, so I just need to know what will run best.

I am currently running with Win XP Home next to the partition that will hold the Linux version and I'm deleting my Lilo boot setup after the partition deletion. With 512M of memory do I need a separate swap file or will SuSe set it up on the 9.0Gig partition that I've allowed for the install? Again, it's easy to do ahead of time with PM, so I appreciate the advice.

Thanks,

Paul

>Last questions, for now anyhow. I have just moved some
>partitions around and will be using PM 8.0 to delete my old
>Mandrake partition. How should I set up the new partition for
>SuSe? Should it be just Linux or Linux EXT3? I can do
>whatever easily with PM, so I just need to know what will run
>best.

During the install SUSE will suggest partition sizes for install and swap file, but you can custom select whatever size and location you want. The default file system on SUSE is "reiser", although I believe the options are available for "ext3".


>I am currently running with Win XP Home next to the partition
>that will hold the Linux version and I'm deleting my Lilo boot
>setup after the partition deletion. With 512M of memory do I
>need a separate swap file or will SuSe set it up on the 9.0Gig
>partition that I've allowed for the install? Again, it's easy
>to do ahead of time with PM, so I appreciate the advice.

The defautlt settings seem to be a 1 gig swap file on the open partition for my setup, I'm running a gig of system memory and that is what SUSE set for my defualt swap file. You can set the size if you want it different. I don't know enough yet to say how it should be set either way.

>
>Thanks,
>
>Paul

Thanks Howard. Now all I need is for the download to finish. I'm at 1:45 with 1.3 Gigs down and appx. 2.0 more to go, so I have a few more hours to wait.

I think that I'll let the setup determine what to use for a file system. It really means nothing to me and unless anyone adds any more advice, I'll use the Reiser.

Paul

Just let the setup auto allocate the partitions for you and them format them if you aren't sure Paul.

You want to give setup empty (unpartitionded space)

Michael:

I just deleted the old Mandrake partition and it's now just unallocated space with no particular format.

One question that remains unanswered is the boot options. Will this (like Mandrake) set up a LiLo dual boot option or is there a better option that I'm not aware of?

Thanks,

Paul

"One question that remains unanswered is the boot options. Will this (like Mandrake) set up a LiLo dual boot option or is there a better option that I'm not aware of?"

Yes, I haven't used this version of Suse, but it will probably set up LILO as the default boot loader which is fine.
It will boot into Linux by default, but you can go into the control center and make changes as you like re: which OS boots first.

Relax, don't worry about anything....

Sounds good! Thanks for the advice. Now for the download to finish and we'll give it a shot.

Paul

Here is something maybe a lot you you potential Linux users don't know about.

http://www.tuxmagazine.com/

It's a free subscription - PDF Linux magazine

"The format of TUX will include easy-to-understand tutorials, insightful hardware and software reviews, useful tips and tricks, enlightened opinion, and in-depth exploration of the tools Linux users use day. In addition, TUX will present this information in a style that is practical, hands-on, user-friendly and jargon-free so that everybody will be able to explore the world of Linux."

Go and get it..

WTF, was downloading the 3.1 G, now the dowload is going in reverse at
-260KB/sec ??????????????????

Another satisfied PC Q&A customer

reverse downloads are not good. Are you useing a download manager?

If you are then break then resume the connection.

Garbru

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Thanks for the reply,garbru , no just using the Firefox 1.0 downloader,
craziest thing I've never seen,lol. Trying now from the Ilinois server
at 1908 mb dowloaded, the Indiana server was at 2 gigs, till it reversed, the CA. has always been busy when trying to dowload from it.

Another satisfied PC Q&A customer

Get this download manager progie... Free Download Manager 1.5.255

http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Free_Download_Manager/1090197761/1

Its a beta, but it works great and its free and no spyware

I installed that and used it to get my DVD ISO. Worked like a charm


Garbru

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I just caught the tail end of mine doing a reverse download, but it all appears to be here. My only problem is using Nero to Create a bootable DVD.

I've always used EZ CD on my other computers to create bootable CD's with no problem and now I'm trying to create a bootable DVD and there appears to be a UDF format that I need to use. I'll give it a try, as the first DVD that I made is not readable in the computer that I want to install Linux on, yet it reads ok in the machine that created it. I did not try to boot the machine that created the disk, I just pulled it from the burner to the DVD and it read the contents ok.

Any tips that I should know on this process with Nero 6.6?

Thanks,

Paul

Same dam thing happened at the Illinois ftp site, 2 gigs downloaded,and it starts going in revese !!! Me thinks not ready as always for prime time !!

Another satisfied PC Q&A customer

I got mine from the Illinois site in reverse and it works well in the machine that created it, even for the boot up, so that shouldn't be a problem. I just can't get it to read from my LG DVD in my computer that I want to install it on.

I wonder if I had a problem that I wasn't aware of happen. It seems I remember something about Mandrake toasting LG drives about a year ago. I'll have to look that one up since I know this DVD boots in my Pioneer DVD-106.

Paul

If it is an ISO
Launch Nero. 6.6
Choose Recorder / Burn image
Browse to the location of the ISO file and select the ISO file you want to burn to cd/dvd
Check the option "Finalize CD (No further writing possible!)
Click on "Burn" now.
It works for CD images. If it is the DVD image I don't know but it should.

Maggie:

It appears that I made two good disks, but the problem is the DVD reader, not the disks.

I can read them on my Pioneer DVD, but not the LG. From looking at the amount of info about this problem on Google, it would appear that I have a bad drive. I've tried cleaning the lens to no avail. Cd's read just fine, but DVD's will not.

Well I guess it was time to buy that new DL unit anyhow, so here we go!

Paul

I just put a dual layer one Nec ND 6500A in my laptop. Some of them are picky so I have pages of supported media and anything else I could find. I haven't burned any DVDs yet just CDRs.

I bought an I/O Magic DVD-/+RW about a year ago and it's worked very well for me. I see that Staples has them on sale in the new 16X version DL model for $79.94 after instant savings and rebate. They're out of stock, so I want to see how long it will take to get one.

If not CompUSA has them for $99.99 and there is a $25.00 rebate coupon available.

Then again, I may just shop NewEgg tomorrow and see what they have on sale. I guess waiting a few days won't hurt at this point.

Paul

I got mine at Newegg. They have some good prices and don't take long to ship. Good return policy also.
I have to be careful. I can't get anything locally and if I can it is cheaper over the internet, that includes with shipping.

Thanks,Garbru,got the Free Download Manager,and it worked like a charm,just got the complete 3.2g version, uh oh,lol

Another satisfied PC Q&A customer

Ok,seamless dual-boot install,but when starting, it asks for a username,and password ? I remember the root password, but don't remember it asking me for a username in set-up. Tried "linux" and the root password, but get a "Login Failed" message ! Help !! Thanks

Another satisfied PC Q&A customer

You should have created a user for yourself in one of the steps during setup. Perhaps you clicked through it.

Log on as root (type root in the name field and the root password in the password field) and run Yast from the start menu under System. Go to Security and Users in the left pane, and then go into Edit and Create Users. Click Add and then fill in the fields and click Create. It will automatically assign appropriate groups (no need to change them).

Grogan

Thanks for the tip Grogan. I'm sure I'll have more questions after I do my install tonight.

Paul

Thanks,Grogan !! I am using SUSE 9.2 as I type,and I also will probably have a lot more questions. This is a sweet set-up !

Another satisfied PC Q&A customer

I am going to have to wait to install SuSe. I got it started today and things were going well.
Looks like the setup is very cool, nice design. But I am having hardware trouble on my second system. The fan on the CPU is not working well. It runs well then starts to slow down and runs kind of warped. I tried to clean it, still runs weird. I was having problems with this for a few weeks... Now I know I have to deal with that. Im hopeing the CPU has not been damaged... maybe I could just replace the HSF and then get it up and running again.. DOnt know. Its an athalon XP 1900 systme with a ECS K7S5A mobo that has been running for a long long time.

I havent decided to try a new HSF or go for a new mobo + proc upgrade.
anyway. I was looking forward to gettting SUSE 9.2 running today but well hardware probs will set me back some time.

Anyway I have enjoyed this thread. I will get my hardware sorted out in the next week or so then give it a go.




Garbru

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I'm about to install one of the new DVD DL drives that I bought today to replace my old LG DVD. Then the fun begins with SuSe.

I'm sure that I'll be back before the nights over.

Paul

Here's one for about 14 or 15 dollars U.S.

http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/volcano/si/a1492.htm

Very interesting that you posted that. I was looking at that very HSF at new egg. I will order that up tomorrow. I can get it to my house for about 15 bucks

then I will be back in buisness.
Garbru

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Unfortunately, mine did not go as well as yours. Several issues have come up. After what I thought to be a seamless installation, the first issue was that my 3Com card was recognized, but the new install could not access the internet for updates. OK, I thought we'll get around that later, so I tried rerunning the test, but still no connection, so now we move on.

The biggest problem is after the nice install is done and it's time to start using the system, my monitor goes black and the power light just flashes on and off after checking between the A/B (Analog/Digital) connection. I saw during the device detection that it detected my Radeon 9200 card and there was no problems indicated other than the network issue, so I'm a little stumped as t what to do at this point. I tried going back in in safe mode, no help there. I also tried rebooting via the install DVD and repairing the install, but still no good.

The install also picked up my Samsung 191T and the resolution at boot-up is 1280X1024, which is also correct. It's really hard working with a blank monitor and I don't want to keep hitting the "reset" button to restart. I know that Grogan advised someone else to never do that, but I had no choice. The 3 finger salute doesn't work, and if it did, I couldn't see any options anyhow!

In case I have to start over, which I don't mind doing, how does one remove the Grub boot loader, which I believe the install used for my dual boot? Is it the same as removing the LILO via the repair option after booting with an XP CD? If necessary, I can delete the partition with PM8 and start over in no time. I'd like to know how to do it in case I decide this is not for me in the future.

FWIW, the install went well up until the monitor issue and my printer was detected right away, which Mandrake had some problems with. My print server was not detected, but there may be a special way to do that after the other issues are resolved.

Thanks,

Paul

>Unfortunately, mine did not go as well as yours. Several
>issues have come up. After what I thought to be a seamless
>installation, the first issue was that my 3Com card was
>recognized, but the new install could not access the internet
>for updates. OK, I thought we'll get around that later, so I
>tried rerunning the test, but still no connection, so now we
>move on.
>

Don't worry if the "connect to the Internet" test doesn't work during the installation. That's not the time to install updates anyway. Mine failed the test and I just proceeded without the test after verifying that I was correctly configured. When the system booted up for real, the network was working. If not, you can configure it then using YAST.

>The biggest problem is after the nice install is done and
>it's time to start using the system, my monitor goes black and
>the power light just flashes on and off after checking between
>the A/B (Analog/Digital) connection. I saw during the device
>detection that it detected my Radeon 9200 card and there was
>no problems indicated other than the network issue, so I'm a
>little stumped as t what to do at this point. I tried going
>back in in safe mode, no help there. I also tried rebooting
>via the install DVD and repairing the install, but still no
>good.
>

Next time, when you get to the SAX2 display configuration utility, go through and configure your monitor manually, ensuring that you choose the correct mode.

You can also get to this in failsafe boot mode, you shouldn't need to reinstall. What that does is log you onto the system starting in Runlevel 3. Choose SUSE LINUX 9.2 (failsafe) from the boot menu, log on as root, and type sax2 and wait a while and it will start the graphical configuration utility.

Click on Monitors and click cancel to the prompt to specify the dimensions (in millimeters... blech). Click the Properties button for your montor and you'll see something like:



Choose wisely. If your manufacturer choice isn't working out, then go back and use a generic choice and choose your desired resolution and frequency.

>The install also picked up my Samsung 191T and the resolution
>at boot-up is 1280X1024, which is also correct. It's really
>hard working with a blank monitor and I don't want to keep
>hitting the "reset" button to restart. I know that Grogan
>advised someone else to never do that, but I had no choice.
>The 3 finger salute doesn't work, and if it did, I couldn't
>see any options anyhow!
>

Hey, if a hard reset is all you can do it's all you can do. The only thing you've got to lose is the remote possibility of corrupting your OS, which at this point isn't a big deal to reinstall anyway.

>In case I have to start over, which I don't mind doing, how
>does one remove the Grub boot loader, which I believe the
>install used for my dual boot? Is it the same as removing the
>LILO via the repair option after booting with an XP CD? If
>necessary, I can delete the partition with PM8 and start over
>in no time. I'd like to know how to do it in case I decide
>this is not for me in the future.
>

Exactly, you rewrite the Microsoft MBR code to get rid of Grub's MBR component just as you would with LILO.

Grogan

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It appears that more went wrong than I knew. I looked at the drives via PM8 and it states that my entire drive which had three NTFS partitions and the SuSe intall is now "BAD" in yellow.

Not good from this end.

I did find that removing the Grub is the same as removing the Lilo via XP CD & repair.

This should be interesting to fix.

Paul

Don't take Partition Magic's word as gospel. Your partitions are probably still usable. It's likely just a minor inconsistency, or something that PM doesn't understand. If you can still access the partitions then forget partition magic.

Grogan

Thanks for the advice. I can access all of the drives, but I've lost the ability to "see" the Suse and the other partitions on the drive via Partition Magic.

I would like to get that back in order to move some of the other partitions around and PM is still the easiest way without losing any data.

Paul

Grogan,messed up , went into my computer to the windows directory,to play a music folder,not just one song,in the amorok media player, and associated that folder to always open with the media player, now when I click on my computer the media player opens up !! Help, TIA

Another satisfied PC Q&A customer

Heheh "Solution: Don't do that"

Ok, I duplicated your problem so's we can fix it. What you've done is, associated directories to open with Amarok. What this does is, creates a mime type file in your hidden .kde settings directory. Files and directories that begin with a dot are hidden in normal listings. You have to do ls -a to see them in a terminal, or turn on hidden files in your file manager.

Since you can't browse folders right now, you (you and me both) are going to have to fix this at the command line.

Open a terminal (e.g. the KDE terminal program called konsole) and you should be in your home directory (e.g. mine is /home/grogan)

Change directory with the following command:

cd .kde/share/mimelnk

Remember, the dot in .kde is important. Also, that's a lower case L in mimelnk

Delete (recursively) a directory named "inode" (inodes are pointers to a file system object). This directory is not supposed to be here. It contains a file named directory.desktop. Type the following command to delete the inode directory:

rm -r inode

That's it, your directory browsing should work normally now.

Grogan

Actually shit... that took care of directories in the file manager windows, but it still left some desktop icons opening with AmaroK.

So you have to go to the KDE Control Center (Control Center in the main start menu)

Go to KDE Components and then "File Associations"



Expand the + beside inodes, and click on directory. In the right pane, click on Amarok and then click Remove.

THIS will fix everything

Grogan

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Udaman,Grogan, that's great,fixed it,lucky cause I wasn't having too
much luck with the terminal thing,lol !

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>now when I click on my computer the media player opens up !! Help, TIA

Live and learn. Never check off the "Remember application association for this type of file" until you have verified that it is the correct application that you want to open.

Any time that you click on a icon or file using KDE and it opens the wrong thing such as what you experienced, close it out.

Now go back and right click on that icon or file and select properties.
In the general tab you will see, as in the case of folders:

Type: -> Folder ->, a wrench with a orange handle.



Click on that icon and it will open up the "Edit File Type inode/directory" (it's the same inode directory that's in the control center) where you can, as in this case delete the offending app (amarok) in the "Application Preference Order" dialog box, click on apply or ok to update the database and it's a done deal, er fixed in this case.

It's the same as Grogan stated, but it is usually quicker than opening up the control center and searching for the culprit that is messing up your system.

KDE has a lot of neet features.

Thanks,BobGuy,As you can see I'm new to linux,in fact this morning was my first waking up to Suse 9.2. This to me is the most stable linux distro I've seen, played around a little with Knoppix,and Mandrake,but like this one best so far. So don't worry, I'll screw up some more I'm sure,lol

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Grogan, I went in through XP's Disk Management and it also "saw" the partitions as they were. I deleted the Linux Swap & System patitions and now PM 8 sees everything again.

So all is well again and now I'm armed with your info about choosing up the monitor during setup, so I'll try it again later this week.

I'm surpised about the monitor, because everything looked great during the installation, but I guess it runs from a different scheme during setup.

Thanks again,

Paul