"What's your security?" Sat Apr-15-06 02:35 AM by ablib
Time for another "What's everyone running and recommend" thread.
I test my security whenever I get bored. Like purposely getting viruses, spyware, crap, etc.. My line of protection never fails me. Fort knox my computer is..
Linksys Router Zone Alarm Norton AntiVirus SpywareBlaster Windows Defender
And scans every so often of Spybot, AdAware and A2 Free.
I don't know how anyone run's that Norton...I've been on many customers 3.2/3.4 GHZ Pentium's with 1GB Ram and machine is sloooooooow...I remove Norton and put on anything else...Fast again. I use Kaspersky but I'd use a free one(AntiVir PE) before I'd touch Norton again. And I called them #1 years ago.
Dell Dimension 4550,Win XP Home SP2, 2.4 GHZ P4, 512MB DDR PC2700 Ram, ATI Rage 128(32MB),Cable Dell Inspiron 5160,XP Home SP2,2.8 GHZ,512MB Ram,32MB Video
Satellite {Xplornet Ka Band which has its own NAT} Linksys router Kaspersky AV Personal (6.0 service release) Spybot Search & Destroy Outpost Firewall Pro {Beta ver. 3.5.746.6412 (462)] w/antispyware full-time protection running} SpywareBlaster
I don't know how anyone run's that Norton...I've been on many customers 3.2/3.4 GHZ Pentium's with 1GB Ram and machine is sloooooooow...I remove Norton and put on anything else...Fast again. I use Kaspersky but I'd use a free one(AntiVir PE) before I'd touch Norton again.
My security..... 1 12 gauge single shot 32" full choke 1 12 gauge single shot 28" mod choke 1 12 gauge pump 1 16 gauge pump 1 20 gauge semi auto 1 high powered rifle with scope classified backups
Looks pretty good, however in my opinion, the most important "security" program is the one least talked about and not even considered a security program by many: a good BACKUP or RECOVERY program. I use Raxco's FirstDefense-Immediate System Recovery for that purpose.
Acadia
The blazing evidence of immortality is our dissatisfaction with any other solution. -- Emerson
I've been trying out some stuff with one Win XP Pro box that I have. It's set up with:
* Windows Firewall * Windows Defender * The free eTrust EZ Antivirus linked to from Microsoft's website
That's it for active security! I do back it up with scans from AdAware, Spybot, and once in while, a2. I have not had any security related problems with it so far.
Every couple of months I may run the spyware apps: Spybot and Adaware, but mostly don't mess with them. Nothing ever comes up except for a few cookies which I don't worry about.
I'm not sure but I use it as well and XP's security center and zone alarm don't recognize it either but I don't use Security Center and shut off ZA's antvirus monitoring.Maybe they don't like free software
2Wire router with built-in firewall NOD32 antivirus TrojanHunter Spywareblaster Ewido
Never have any problems. I quit using any Norton products a long time ago except for Ghost. I upgraded Ghost a few months ago and it was installed on one of my other desktops. I had nothing but trouble with it so uninstalled it and went with Acronis True Image. No more problems.
>I was gonna say. A Microsoft product as your main line of >defense. ewwww
I agree that is a a bit risky to say the least.
Allowing MS to be your main line of PC security is like: - hiring a crack head to be your home security guard. - Hiring a guy who is always drunk to be your chauffeur - hiring the town thief to watch your valuables while you go use the rest room.
- Hiring OJ Simpson to teach your children honesty
>Without running real time protection, any virus program is >virtually worthless, and exposes everyone in your address book >to threats.
Hi, please explain what real time means, how can we check that we have it, and why you think some uses are not being recognized.....and as said before, maybe that Z.A. may have an issue with the free anti virus users like A.V.G.?
Real-time means your antivirus software is running in the background and is scanning your files, usually when they are created or accessed. If you have AVG running in your system tray, and the icon isn't gray, you have real-time protection enabled.
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please explain what real time means, how can we check that we have it
>Without running real time protection, any virus program is >virtually worthless, and exposes everyone in your address book >to threats.
I live this way 2 years now and never-never had a problem. I scan what I download and Opera never lets you get infected when online. I turn KAV's Monitor ON only when I use IE.
I don't advice people to do that... Just what I do:-)
Now that's the dumbest thing I've heard in awhile. In today's Internet environment, that would be like having a one night stand without a condom. Jeez, no wonder all that crap keeps spreading.
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I live this way 2 years now and never-never had a problem. I scan what I download and Opera never lets you get infected when online.
I guarantee you...it's not just my opinion, friend. And I go anywhere on the Internet I want without any worry, because my security isn't compromised by my own stupidity.
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It's just your opinion friend... I don't know where you go and what you 're searching when online.
How would you know if you have ever been infected? newer worms detect antivirus programs on a computer and once on the system can make themselves invisible to that program.
You could simply be a "Typhoid Mary" infecting others without even knowing it, orshowing symptoms yourself.
Sadly, computer users, in the tens of millions, are clueless about security, like yourself, and are the reason viruses, worms, and trojans even exist today. If everyone was properly protected creating theses things would be a waste of time, and the scum that get their jollies by screwing up peoples computers would just crawl back under their rocks.
You are missing Shelleys point, that if you dont have realtime switched on, the nasties make themselves invisible on your pc, so that when you do eventually, do a scan, they are then invisible to the AV program and you then think that you have a lovely clean pc.
#56. "RE: What's your security?" In response to antcj (Reply # 54) Mon Apr-17-06 09:04 PM by ablib
come on people. Your'e wasting your typing. I deal with these kinds everyday. Every day I repair peoples computer problems. People that say "I have antivirus installed", but it hasn't been updated in years. Or "I don't need antivirus" then why did I just delete 5708 detections on your computer? Or what do you think is the reason you called me? Or "I have antivirus, but I don't need real time prevention" then why am I reformatting because your boot sector is gone?
I have Symantec AV 10 with active scanning on. Other active security programs: ZA Pro and ProcessGuard. I also have AdAware, SpyBot, and SpywareBlaster and keep the definitions updated, but rarely run any scans (never find anything except for cookies). I use Firefox so the Immunization features of Spybot and SpywareBlaster aren't really useful.
With all my hours and hours surfing on-line, the only nasties I've come across are some minor trojans and such, usually placed in the cache directories and cookies. I might have gotten one virus once in the past few years - can't remember (but it never infected my system - was caught and deleted). I run CrapCleaner regularly. And these things would not slip by any manual scans since they wouldn't become activated.
So I can see how someone without active scanning, and with very safe surfing habits (scans anything they download before they run it) can get away with it safely - as long as they keep their definitions updated and scan regularly.
Though I agree, in theory, someone could become infected without having "run" the infected file, and before they get a chance to run a manual antivirus scan - jpeg files, movie files, etc. But I have yet to run across any such infected files myself.
>2)KAV personal pro > (no real time protection-only on demand) > >Never caught a virus,trojan..
Now that's one of the most idiotic statements I've heard. I have your same setup except Zone Alarm Pro and KAV Personal Pro WITH real-time. Even with Opera I've come across "innocent looking" sites that had nasties as soon as I clicked the link....and no, that's not surfing for porn. You may have been lucky so far, but you never know what you have until you do a manual scan, and then may be too late for you or others in contact with your computer through email.
Sorry, but in reference to the "edsod" thread, & contrary to what others have posted against it, in general, I agree with edsod.
Now everyone has made valid points, & while his surfing habits & the way he uses his computer may not make it a valid method for all (or maybe even very many), there is no reason that not having an AV (at all) will necessarily make him more susceptible.
This goes a long way also, "common sense...".
Some here espose the use of ERUNT over XP's System Restore. The only falicy that I see is that SR is automated - it does not (in general) need user intervention. The same as a realtime scanner does. ERUNT requires the dumy behind the wheel to know in advance that he wants to backup his registry, & then he must physically do it - the "on demand" scanner.
Why bother installing antivirus software if you ain't gonna run the realtime protection? There's online virus scanners, so why install any locally?
ERUNT can be automated. Read up on the command line switches and make yourself a .bat file. Use Task Scheduler to run it. System restore is an absolute joke.
Spyware Doctor with real time protection turned on
Sygate PF
I run scans with free versions of A Squared, Spybot S&D, Rootkit Revealer and Hijack this on a monthly basis and best of all I use Firefox as my browser.
Why these checks did not complete for you: You are not using Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0 or newer.
#70. "RE: What's your security?" In response to BobGuy (Reply # 69) Tue Apr-25-06 07:12 AM by DJC
I have Linksys Router Zone Alarm Norton AntiVirus SpywareBlaster Windows Defender and Trojan Hunter I used to have the paid version of A2 Squared but discontinued this program. I am thinking of purchasing Spy Sweeper.
Using a bleeding edge Microsoft security product.
