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EdTue Jun-28-11 11:44 AM
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"AVIRA search toolbar"


          

The past few days, I have been getting popups from Avira asking me to install the search toolbar or install it later. I visited the website and noted it was a product of ASK.COM. That is enough to tell me I don't want it. To uninstall the toolbar you use the control panel add-remove programs. Does anyone have this toolbar installed or is it just more unwanted Junk. What is happening at AVIRA anyway?


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MSUTue Jun-28-11 01:27 PM
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#1. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
In response to Ed (Reply # 0)
Tue Jun-28-11 01:29 PM by MSU

  

          

It's more unwanted junk.

edit: You must have missed this discussion about junk now being pushed by Avira.

http://www.pcqanda.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=2&topic_id=533340&mesg_id=533340&listing_type=search

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ShellyTue Jun-28-11 02:13 PM
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#2. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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If you installed all the useless toolbars being pushed today you would have no screen real estate left for any useful activity.

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#3. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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I have been getting popups from Avira asking me to install the search toolbar or install it later.

JUST SAY NO!

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And now they're using JavaScript to "turn" pages to boot ! SUCKS

  

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EdTue Jun-28-11 03:49 PM
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#4. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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I do say no, but it keeps on asking. Just can't take NO for an answer. I will check the programs list to see if is already installed.


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EdTue Jun-28-11 03:52 PM
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#5. "RE: AVIRA - it is not in the installed programs list so I there must be"
In response to Ed (Reply # 4)
Tue Jun-28-11 04:13 PM by Ed

          

a way to stop the asking somewhere in the AVIRA program.

The following is from the AVIRA forum:


"WebGuard Ask Toolbar not working
Hope someone can help.

Just recieved a big Avira Update to find i now have Webguard! Ask Toolbar option.

Using Win7 64bit Home Premium SP1 with both 32bit and 64bit IE.

Webguard is disabled, Avira is "Not Available" i have no toolbar even though i enabled it when prompted to do so.

I don't want yet another toolbar!

Unistalled Avira Webguard from the PC everything now sweet and dandy.

How can i disable Avira from prompting me to install the toolbar altogether?"
I didn't see an answer immediately but I will keep looking.

I have disabled web guard from within the AVIRA program itself. Will see if this works.







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jmcTue Jun-28-11 04:19 PM
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#6. "RE: AVIRA - it is not in the installed programs list so I there must be"
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Where is people seeing that? I install Avira a couple times a day and have never seen anything about a "ToolBar". Is in one of their Pop-Ups or do you get the option during install. I never see it.

  

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antcjWed Jun-29-11 06:10 PM
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#22. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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I had the same prob, wouldnt take no for an answer.
Then read on their website , if u don't want it uninstall it.
Oh ok. ....Why didnt they just provide a tick box, next to NO?

So i let it install and promptly uninstalled it.
2 reboots later all good. no nag.(someone who installs this as part of their daily job would be real annoyed at the extra reboots)

I understand they want to make some $ but at the expense of annoying the user base they have worked so hard to get?

Wont take too much more of this and ill move as well.
My trust levels have been eroded unfortunately.

This just shows you cant let down your guard and accept blindly anything any vendor throws at you.
Avira would have been one of the most trusted sites out there.

  

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#23. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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Quote:
QUOTE:
I had the same prob, wouldnt take no for an answer.
Then read on their website , if u don't want it uninstall it.
Oh ok. ....Why didnt they just provide a tick box, next to NO?

So i let it install and promptly uninstalled it.
2 reboots later all good. no nag.(someone who installs this as part of their daily job would be real annoyed at the extra reboots)

I understand they want to make some $ but at the expense of annoying the user base they have worked so hard to get?

Wont take too much more of this and ill move as well.
My trust levels have been eroded unfortunately.

This just shows you cant let down your guard and accept blindly anything any vendor throws at you.
Avira would have been one of the most trusted sites out there.


I'm not sure I understand exactly what is causing these ASK toolbar issues. I have Avira Free installed on all of my computers, and automatically include it in any machine I work on, and yet I have never seen this problem. I'm thinking it is an option that I do not install, or something of that nature.

Avira still throws up the usual page whenever the automatic update happens, but it is just the usual Avira page that gives you the option of going with the paid version. Nothing wrong with that.

Dave

  

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jmcWed Jun-29-11 10:06 PM
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#24. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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Wed Jun-29-11 10:23 PM by jmc

          

I agree 100% Dave. I have not seen one clue or even an offer to install that toolbar. I work on Computers and install Avira at least 2 or 3 times a day. I wonder if this is only going to a targeted market or part of the world/country. Only the Update Pop-Up is all I ever see. I have not received any calls concerning this. ODD

I usually get the New Program Updates through "FileHippo.com" I wonder if that has anything to do with it. I never get it from the Avira Website. Just for Hey of it I am going to download the free from them directly and see if its different in any way. BRB

Edit: Got the Program directly from them and just installed it. No Mention of a ToolBar or Anything about it or mentioned anywhere in the
Program itself either.

ANYone: When, Where, and How did you come in contact with this ToolBar?
Did you get a Pop-Up offering it. Did it just install along with the program. I never see anything about "Uniblue" software either. It all
looks like the Normal everyday Avira we all know and love(ed).

  

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GroganWed Jun-29-11 10:10 PM
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#25. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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They may be doing something that's country based, if the IP address is in one of the countries they are targeting.

I have not seen any of this either, and I've been watching for it, and warning my people about it. I have only seen them marketing Avira Premium in the update notifier ad space and I have never seen the prompt to download the Ass toolbar.

(I don't mind them exposing their paid for products to my people, in fact I would encourage it, if they wish to buy it. I will not allow them to put uniblue or ask toolbar rubbish on their computers though.)

You know, there was a time when Ask (Ask Jeeves) was a decent search engine, with a unique user interface. (Ask it a question in plain English). Now it's just marketing garbage.

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#26. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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Quote:
QUOTE:
They may be doing something that's country based, if the IP address is in one of the countries they are targeting.

I have not seen any of this either, and I've been watching for it, and warning my people about it. I have only seen them marketing Avira Premium in the update notifier ad space and I have never seen the prompt to download the Ass toolbar.

(I don't mind them exposing their paid for products to my people, in fact I would encourage it, if they wish to buy it. I will not allow them to put uniblue or ask toolbar rubbish on their computers though.)

You know, there was a time when Ask (Ask Jeeves) was a decent search engine, with a unique user interface. (Ask it a question in plain English). Now it's just marketing garbage.


I just wonder if the folks that are complaining about that ToolBar are
Infected with some kind of Trojan or Rouge-Ware. Perhaps one of them is mimicking Avira to Trust and install it.

  

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#31. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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this from their website
http://www.avira.com/en/support-for-free-faq-detail?faqid=863
Ant

  

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#27. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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QUOTE:
I have only seen them marketing Avira Premium in the update notifier ad space and I have never seen the prompt to download the Ass toolbar./blockquote]

"Ass toolbar."

  

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GroganThu Jun-30-11 12:01 AM
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#30. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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Too bad I spoke too soon. I'm at a house right now, where I noticed the Avira umbrella won't open in the systray icon. On both of their computers.

A right click shows the Guard enabled, and a greyed out "Web guard" option. On reboot, Avira prompts to install the toolbar for Safe Searches. The only choices are Install Now or Later and the umbrella that people are used to, won't open without it.

That's not an "optional" component if the UI displays what is essentially a fault condition without it.

This is awful and it's going to cost me time, I know it.

Grogan

  

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antcjThu Jun-30-11 12:18 AM
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#32. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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Thats it exactly Mike, , I had to install and then uninstall to get rid of the bugger
Ant

  

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#33. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
In response to Grogan (Reply # 30)
Thu Jun-30-11 01:27 AM by dtellier

  

          

Now I'm feeling really left out! I checked a couple of my installations and there appears to be no option to install the Web Guard and it does not list as an installation that can be removed. I'm wondering if it's something that loads if you make some unusual changes to the default options in the program when installing. I install this program so often that I automatically know which changes to apply to configure it the way I prefer.

Dave

Edit: Checking Avira's site, it appears Webguard is included with the SP2 update. My current version is 10.0.0.650 of Avira Free, and I can't confirm if SP2 is installed. I let the program update as required, and the current version date is June 17, 2011. Using the Help function in the software, the term 'webguard' produces no results.

  

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GroganThu Jun-30-11 05:43 AM
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#36. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
In response to dtellier (Reply # 33)
Thu Jun-30-11 05:47 AM by Grogan

  

          

I installed it on two systems today (that didn't have Avira before), and none of this happened. I had checked for "Product Updates" as well in the main program (sometimes there are small updates that come through that, while the normal "start update" shows it up to date) and there was nothing.

Yet tonight, on two computers that have had Avira for a long time, what I said above was occurring. I'm over there a lot (and it wasn't like this last Friday), so this is fairly recent.

P.S. Maybe they are pushing this "SP2" update out gradually, to keep the load on their servers workable.

Grogan

  

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GroganThu Jun-30-11 08:25 PM
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#54. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
In response to Grogan (Reply # 36)


  

          

I just let this happen on another computer I'm working on, so I could see it in action. I right clicked and did an update check, and it downloaded a big update. After that, yes it prompted to install the new toolbar but the umbrella stayed open.

The Product Version is now showing 10.2.0.696

I rebooted, and Avira prompted again to install the toolbar as expected. However, the umbrella remains open unless I disable the Guard. It opens again when I re-enable it too, like it's supposed to.

There is no greyed out "Web guard" in the right click menu if the toolbar isn't installed, either.

So it seems they have fixed this bad behaviour, at least.

I'm not going to install the toolbar on this computer, I'm just going to tell the people to keep saying "Later" unless they really want that functionality. (Which I doubt, they'll just go with what I tell them)

Grogan

  

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#57. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
In response to Grogan (Reply # 54)


          

I just rebooted and got the Avira splash screen explaining the problem. I then did Update > Start Product Update and it updated to 10.2.0.696. Everything is now back to normal, umbrella up.
I guess a bit of a thumbs up for Avira for mending it relatively quickly.

  

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#34. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
In response to Grogan (Reply # 30)


          

Quote:
QUOTE:
Too bad I spoke too soon. I'm at a house right now, where I noticed the Avira umbrella won't open in the systray icon. On both of their computers.

A right click shows the Guard enabled, and a greyed out "Web guard" option. On reboot, Avira prompts to install the toolbar for Safe Searches. The only choices are Install Now or Later and the umbrella that people are used to, won't open without it.

That's not an "optional" component if the UI displays what is essentially a fault condition without it.

This is awful and it's going to cost me time, I know it.


Hey Mike I think I found a work-around...at least for FireFox.

Do the complete Update and install WebGaurd AND the Ask Toolbar. Installing Ask Toolbar is important, otherwise Webguard won't fully install and you get the closed umbrella.

Do a reboot, then open FireFox and type in our friend about:config. Now in the filter box type in ask.com.

About 4 strings pertaining to " browser search " should show up with " ask.com " as the default value. Right click each string and choose Reset.

Close FireFox and then restart. Ask Tool bar should be gone and you should have your default search engines back. You should also be able to add search engines again.

Best of all, this leaves WebGuard fully functional and the Umbrella opens....Yaaaay.

Tried this on my Dad's system, and so far so good. No Pop-up about installing the new SP2 version after several restarts either.

  

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#35. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
In response to Chickenman (Reply # 34)
Thu Jun-30-11 05:56 AM by Chickenman

          

Seemed to have found another little work around on my own computer

I updated Avira to SP2, installed Webgaurd and Ask Toolbar then I uninstalled it totally. Rebooted and installed an earlier version of Avira 10 ( before the newest update ).

Then I did a full manual update ( Definitions and engine ). Here is the interesting part. When I did the uninstall, some registry entire must have gotten left behind because WebGuard is flagged as being installed in the registry. This seems to have effectively blocked any further requests to install WebGuard or the Ask Toolbar.

The joy is..WebGuard is NOT really installed. No Options show in the Avira Main Control Panel for configuring WebGuard. I also confirmed this by going into Administrative Tools/Services and the MSC service for Webguard is not listed. It was previously, when WebGuard and the Ask Toolbar were installed.

Here is my Avira version screenshot. Note the Webguard version 10.01.09.00



I will have to check an older computer, to see if that file was loaded previous to this latest update.

Attachment #1, (jpg file)

  

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#37. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
In response to Chickenman (Reply # 35)
Thu Jun-30-11 06:17 AM by Grogan

  

          

Heheh... maybe a .reg file to add this data that prevents the program from prompting to install the Anus toolbar.

Still, I can't really use such a workaround professionally, because I can't count on it to stay like that. The next upgrade could "fix" that functionality.

I'm debating what to do about this. I'll probably play with it in a virtual machine to better understand the behaviour.

I can either just let people install the Arse toolbar (easiest solution) and let them use the web guard back end, though I hate shit like that anyway. The more redundant filtering and gyrating, the greater the contribution to the conversion of a computer to a 3 foot length of turd.

Or I can start to ditch Avira in favour of... what?

I'm not very happy with Microsoft Security Essentials. It's not stellar protection, but is better than nothing or AVG for real time protection. However, its scanner is so slow and crippling that it's not worth using and it's rather weak on the user interface, with not many settings. It relies on Windows Update mechanisms too.

I'm still not happy with Avast (I thought it had improved, but I saw it in action the other day and it was nothing but crippling rubbish in my way, while trying to remove the malware it missed. This was a paid for Avast Internet Security program though, so it tasted more like ass.)

I'll never go back to commercial packages like any of that McNorton shit.

Eset is too much of a pain in the ass to deal with, and it hasn't got as much going for it as it used to either. (Not worth the hassle, I don't mean it's total shit)

Kaspersky is too expensive and too hardware intensive.

Another thing that's important about Avira is that it's not as invasive as other programs and (the free version) can be easily and quickly installed, and is an effective brute force scanner that I have come to trust. So I'd want to install that anyway for the customer, during a cleanup.

I suppose what I could do, is buy up a bunch of Avira licenses and just give one to every customer that needs it. It's really small money compared to paying for my services anyway and there would be no exposure to that whoreware associated with the free version.

Grogan

  

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#38. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar GROGAN, if I have"
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MSE installed (I uninstalled AVIRA) and I also have Malwarebytes can I uninstall superantispyware free version? I have been using this and one thing i dont understand is that if I let it scan daily and it finds 53 items for example. I have them quarantined and the next day it finds 53 or so more. I don't think I picked up that many overnight. What am I doing wrong. Does this have anything to do with immunize? I know that Microsoft offers an anti-malware program tht you can use for a certain time and then have to re-install. Is it any good? Any advice on free anti malware would be appreciated. I am using windows XP and have my computers networked thru a wired (password protected) router to a cable modem.



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#40. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar GROGAN, if I have"
In response to Ed (Reply # 38)
Thu Jun-30-11 10:36 AM by MSU

  

          

Quote:
QUOTE:I know that Microsoft offers an anti-malware program tht you can use for a certain time and then have to re-install.

You're thinking of the old MS Defender. They don't offer it anymore. MSE takes care of viruses and malware.

MSU

  

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#41. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar GROGAN, if I have"
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Ok, I thought my son told me he downloaded and installed a trial version yesterday. If MSE does a good job on Malware, I assume it might be a OK to uninstall SuperAntiSpyware Free Version to save space and memory usage.


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#58. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar GROGAN, if I have"
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SuperAntiSpyware free version is just a scanner that provides no real time protection and such things ordinarily don't matter, BUT, SuperAntiSpyware leaves a service running for no good reason, even though you uncheck the box to not load the program at startup. (It just doesn't load the user interface program)

So I always ditch the program after using it (if I use it).

Malwarebytes free edition is something you can leave installed, and keep up to date in the event that you need to use a good malware scanner. With the exception of the first reboot after removing malware, malwarebytes doesn't need to load anything at startup. The program, and its filter drivers just sit there on disk and don't get loaded until needed.

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#62. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar GROGAN, if I have"
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Thanks, I removed SAS from all my computers except my wife's . I will probably do that today. All the pop ups make her feel safe


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#63. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar GROGAN, if I have"
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Quote:
QUOTE:All the pop ups make her feel safe

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#56. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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Just curious, what's your criteria for what to install for the average user you service? I noticed you said Avast got in the way of you using your own tools to clean something - never thought of that (I use Avast free AV after several years of nod32->Avira->MSE with a good reason to drop each one.)

See, I don't think about how well something cleans, because I've literally never had to do it. I guess I just use an AV "because." If it doesn't slow me up, I can figure it out quickly and works consistently, I'm happy.

  

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#59. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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It's not so much that Avast was getting in the way of my tools, but the old story of missing components of malware, detecting others after it's too late and gyrating and crippling and being unable to remove it anyway. This was like a 3 GHz'ish uniprocessor pentium 4, or pentium D (can't remember which but I think I saw it running at 2.71 GHz somewhere), 1 Gb RAM, Windows XP computer. Not modern, but it shouldn't have sucked.

Also, Avast Internet Security kept detecting a new network and gyrating and prompting every time the PPPoE connnected. I could not get it to stop doing that, even in Advanced options where I changed every instance of the network to "work, medium security".

So I disabled all of Avast's shields while using Malwarebytes and friends. After I got the computer cleaned up a bit I took it off and installed Avira and scanned, then took that off and replaced it with... Avast's free antivirus software (the lady really was used to Avast and I didn't want to yank the rug out from under foot, especially seeing as Avira was an uncertainty to me with the crap going on)

Avast also has reasonably good detections, but Avira has better ones. I remember once (years ago) trying to report missed detections to Avast and was told that they were spyware, and beyond the scope of the program.

Avira, by contrast, fall over themselves to deal with user submissions whether suspected malware or false detections. I often find new malware variants just by following the path from the entries that load the pest. Rootkit drivers too, after I find and remove/replace them. If Avira doesn't detect something, I submit it to Avira, and by the next day, if not the same day, I get a response saying they have added my submission to their database. I have also submitted what I have known to be false positives as well. I believe that this is one of the reasons that Avira has such good detections.

Indeed, most people here never get to see their antivirus software in real action other than reacting to the odd thing they encounter. (and sometimes that's not even a serious threat)

My criteria is mostly to stick with what I have come to trust. It has to provide reasonably good protection, and not cripple the computer. In terms of brute force detections, Avira works very well. That is not to say that it stops all malware though to be fair... nothing does because of the way these things present themselves. (as legit software installs that don't show their true nature until after they are hooked)

I don't use antivirus software at all in my Windows installation, but I mostly just use it for games. I use a 64 bit Firefox ("Nightly") to check my forums and stuff sometimes and I'm pretty careful where I go. So sure, I could sit there and watch something as shitty as AVG go around in circles and be impressed if I didn't know any better.


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Just curious, what's your criteria for what to install for the average user you service? I noticed you said Avast got in the way of you using your own tools to clean something - never thought of that (I use Avast free AV after several years of nod32->Avira->MSE with a good reason to drop each one.)

See, I don't think about how well something cleans, because I've literally never had to do it. I guess I just use an AV "because." If it doesn't slow me up, I can figure it out quickly and works consistently, I'm happy.

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#60. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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Yeah, it seems you have to change these things as time passes - what works now might not next year.

I ran Avira happily for a few years, then one day, no connectivity. Was at least the web filter of Avira (maybe more) and I waited for them to fix through update, but didn't happen. I could run without web thingy, but only for a few days, then more mess and I'm too old and lazy to chase this stuff. Hello Avast ...

  

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#61. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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Sat Jul-02-11 08:15 PM by Grogan

  

          

Avira does not win awards for reliability. It's gotten a lot better, but I'm still always checking it to make sure it's working properly. That's why I noticed the umbrella icon immediately, as I was saying in one of my posts above.

P.S. I don't like network filtering software because it's a layer that is prone to get broken, and stop communications.

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#7. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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Is this the pop-up that displays every time the program starts? If so, CompPete wrote a little script that you put in the "Startup" folder of your start menu that keeps that pop-up from bugging you. I don't remember the address to download it. Maybe he can post the address. If not, I have the file saved and can send it to you.

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#9. "I Uninstalled AVIRA and"
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installed MSE. I will give it a try and if I like it, I will install it on all my computers. In searching the forum for past posts on MSE and Free antivirus software, I came upon a post by Grogan which stated that he recommends uninstalling the free version of SuperAntiSpyware. I also use Malwarebytes. I haven't uninstalled SuperAntiSpyware but they might be next. I have been running it everyday for years at a certain time. If it finds 53 items on the list and I remove them, the next day when it runs, it finds at least 53 items again. I know I didn't pick that many up in one visit to the web so maybe I wasn't using it correctly anyway. I have my computers behind a password wired router so I am not using Windows or anyother firewall. So far I haven't had any problems. MSE recommends enabling the Firewall but I haven't done that yet. MSE seems to offer a lot for free.


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#10. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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I've stopped using Avira, and I no longer have that script on my webserver. If you need a free antivirus product, I recommend Microsoft Security Essentials.

  

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#11. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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on MSE, are you running a full scan or just a quick scan? The quick scan was pretty quick.

  

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#13. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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When I first install it, I run the quick scan. By default it is also scheduled to run a quick scan on Sundays at 2am. Other than that, I've never had to run any manual scans. The realtime protection is good enough for me (and my clients).

  

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#15. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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The MSE is good but one thing I really don't like about it is it really puts a drag on my network. A good thing for most but not for me.

  

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#16. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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What drag??I haven't experienced any network slowdowns just curious.

  

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#17. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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I've not noticed anything either. I use it on all my systems and it's by far the least intrusive and least resource hungry of any freebie and many paid ones I've used.

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#20. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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I use a WD MyBook connected into my router and use it to install Software to the computers I work on. Sometimes I have up to 6 going at one time. If I have the MSE real-time protection enabled it takes twice as long to run installation files over my network. If I disable it everything goes back to normal speed but it does not protect. It is just checking the files as I access them and slows it down. That is the one thing I like about Avira it does not change the speed at all and still protects.

Avira is also really good for when I am copying their Saved Data back in the new configuration. It nails things on the fly very well with no drag at all. Copy and Scan at the same time. Most any Antivirus should be good for that but I like how Avira does it. It is the best for Low Overhead with great detection.

  

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MSUTue Jun-28-11 11:10 PM
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#18. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
In response to CompPete (Reply # 10)
Tue Jun-28-11 11:12 PM by MSU

  

          

I'll second MSE. But the offer is still there for anyone who might want that script you wrote. I'll just email it. As long as I don't get hundreds of requests

edit: That is as long as the author doesn't mind.

MSU

  

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#19. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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Of course I don't mind. If someone thinks its useful, feel free to distribute it. I just don't think its useful anymore so I didn't transfer it when I switched web hosts.

  

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#21. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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I haven't used it since Sept 2009, when MSE came out. But I keep stuff, so it's stored away just in case

MSU

  

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#8. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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Yet another reason to switch to Avast!



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#12. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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Tue Jun-28-11 06:32 PM by Chickenman

          

What is happening? Simple. They need money to keep the company running and too many people ( myself included ) stay with just the free version.

Somehow they have to make income, so that is the reason for the partnership with Ask.com.

BTW, the new Toolbar includes Webguard, which is a real time feature of the paid version. Don't want the Toolbar? Don't install it and put up with the reminders, or install CompPete's script. Or you can pony up the money for the paid version and the Toolbar disappears.

Bottom line...it's free. Quit your bitchin'.....

  

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#14. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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I hate to say it but they made the Free Version too Good for their own Good. In this Economy people DO FREE. That Free Avira has been the best AntiVirus "Ever" bought or paid that I can think of. I love how light it is on a System and is very user friendly. I tried the bought Version for a short while and favored the Free.

They have it for a 30 day trial and it only costs $30 such a great price for such good Stuff. If you have never tried the bought version I suggest you do. It is Fantastic.

http://www.avira.com/en/avira-free-antivirus

  

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#28. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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Altoona,Pa..USA..I'm getting it on all my machines.


Dell Studio 540, Windows 7 Ultimate, Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q8200 (2.33GHz, 1333MHz FSB), w/

4MBcache, 4GB DDR2 SDRAM 800MHZ- 4X1GB DIM M, ATI Radeon HD 3650 256MB supporting HDMI

  

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#29. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
In response to uffbros (Reply # 28)
Wed Jun-29-11 11:28 PM by jmc

          

That is very close to Pittsburgh Where I am from. You also say you got it on all your machines. That makes the Rouge-ware theory unlikely.
Where did you download you Avira?

Its good you posted your location. Others?

Edit: I did some searching on their Website about it. How to Install the
Webguard/ToolBar? Enter Programs and Features hit the Avira and select Change. It should then be listed as one of the Components. Not on Mine.
I checked for the Free version fresh install and I checked for the bought Version installed last Night. No ToolBar/Webguard in either of them.

What the hell is the Deal with that? Dam, I wanted to check it out.

  

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#39. "To remove AVIRA pop ups and ads"
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http://dottech.org/tipsntricks/5812/remove-the-popup-in-avira-antivir/




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#42. "RE: To remove AVIRA pop ups and ads"
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Hey boys!

Sometimes you just look for the most complicated way of doing things.
After all these are computers, right?

heh,heh

I read the posts here and went ahead to install the offerring as presented with an update. Intending to uninstall again to get rid of the tool bar.
Lo and behold.....on about the third screen of the instal wizard the "great" ask toolbar offerring is presented . Here it can be chosen to accept or NOT. I unchecked it and the install went ahead just like a real one.

Without the tool Bar.

Give it a try.

Pacific.

  

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#43. "RE: To remove AVIRA pop ups and ads"
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Ummm..yeah.We've all tried that. Unless something has changed, if you don't install the Ask toolbar, Webguard does not function. Without WebGaurd functioning, the Tray icon for Avira always shows as being inactive ( umbrella closed ).

This creates a big problem if you are servicing computers fo clients.

Is the Avira Umbrella open or closed on your system?

  

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#48. "RE: To remove AVIRA pop ups and ads"
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Quote:
QUOTE:
Ummm..yeah.We've all tried that. Unless something has changed, if you don't install the Ask toolbar, Webguard does not function. Without WebGaurd functioning, the Tray icon for Avira always shows as being inactive ( umbrella closed ).

This creates a big problem if you are servicing computers fo clients.

Is the Avira Umbrella open or closed on your system?



Version 10.00 00 39 installed. Without the web guard. Umbrella opens as it used to.

If I desire the W/G feature I believe I'd go for the $$ version.

P

  

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#51. "RE: To remove AVIRA pop ups and ads"
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Quote:
QUOTE:Version 10.00 00 39 installed. Without the web guard. Umbrella opens as it used to.

If I desire the W/G feature I believe I'd go for the $$ version.

P

Well of course it would still be open with the free version, since the free version doesn't even incorporate Web Guard. That would be silly to have a free version that didn't even work because it didn't have something that was only in the paid version.

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#52. "RE: To remove AVIRA pop ups and ads"
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Thu Jun-30-11 07:38 PM by Chickenman

          

Replied to wrong post.

Edit: Mark..BTW, this is the latest free version that we are talking about here, and it does include WebGuard....and the freakin' Ask Toolbar.

  

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#55. "RE: To remove AVIRA pop ups and ads"
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Thu Jun-30-11 08:26 PM by MSU

  

          

Really? I'm just going by this on their web site.




edit: Well like I said before, I haven't used it since MSE came out.

MSU

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#53. "RE: To remove AVIRA pop ups and ads"
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Thu Jun-30-11 07:38 PM by Chickenman

          

Quote:



Version 10.00 00 39 installed. Without the web guard. Umbrella opens as it used to.

If I desire the W/G feature I believe I'd go for the $$ version.

P


That's the old free version. No wonder you aren't having any problems.

The new free version is 10.2.0.690...that is the free version that is having issues.

  

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#44. "RE: To remove AVIRA pop ups and ads"
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Hell. I never liked version Ten with the problems they were having when it came out so I stuck with version 9.0.0.429.

Never, ever had any problems with it. So far it still will be good until 09/01/11.

As far as I know, the Detection rate it just as good as the new version.

You can still get older versions at FileHippo

Ken:

  

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#45. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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Fri Jul-01-11 02:12 AM by jmc

          

I give up. How do I get that Sp2? Is there a download link for it or what? I looked everywhere and can not find


Edit: Today it is coming through. I am installing it to see what the deal is with that. Why are we assuming it is a bad thing? I won't be using it on any of my systems but perhaps it can be added protection for some people. Just because ASK is doing it does not necessarily mean it is bad. Ask knows ToolBars and will throw a few Coins At Avira also.
We are not Throwing any Coins at Avira. They need Cash to keep going like everybody else. I will check it out and see what the harm is.

NEW EDIT: Now I have a Reason to NOT LIKE or INSTALL THAT God AWFULL
TOOL/ShitBAR. I never got it installed. Why? If you don't Select to
Have ASK as your Default Search Engine then after you Reboot it just
Keeps Asking as if you never installed it. BULLSHIT!!

Now I think Installing it they way I did and not selecting ASK as the Default Search Engine. IT seems You still Get The WEB Protection WITHOUT the ToolBar. That sounds pretty cool.

Go to Install the ToolBar and click the box "Accepts Box" but do not
click ASK as your Default. Reboot and ignore the popup. That stops and
the Extra protection stays. Hope that is as good as it seems.
So Far it Does

  

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#46. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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Quote:
QUOTE:
I give up. How do I get that Sp2? Is there a download link for it or what? I looked everywhere and can not find it.

For Vista? (I'm confused because I don't recall anyone talking about service packs in this thread)

All the Service Packs for XP, Vista and 7 are available Here

MSU

  

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#47. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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Thanks Mark but I was refering to the SP2 for Avira

  

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#49. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
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I went into Update then started the process to download the Toolbar but cancelled it on the last step. Now my Umbrella is open with all functions showing Normal. Whether or not it will stay that way on an update I am not sure. I just thought I would contribute to the thread.

  

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#50. "RE: AVIRA search toolbar"
In response to jmc (Reply # 47)
Thu Jun-30-11 06:21 PM by MSU

  

          

Oh, I never heard of such a thing for Avira. I thought all you did was download the latest version.

edit: OK, I'm looking at their site now. It looks like they do have an SP2, but maybe it's only for the Paid Version I think. I've always used the Free Version. Don't see where to get that SP2 yet though.

MSU

  

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