http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=3573

How horrible! It's so interesting that you posted this, because I have just finished a book titled "The Death of Right and Wrong" by author Tammy Bruce. This book details the agenda of the far Left, and it does cover these types of movements - such as "Intergenerational Sex", etc. What makes this book more credible is the fact that she is a self-avowed lesbian and feminist, who was also the former president of the Los Angeles chapter of NOW. It can be graphic however, so it's not for the faint of heart. One of the best political books I have ever read! OK - book review over

Tammy Bruce is my favorite lefty.

Thank god for the ACLU. This is still a country of "law and not of man", though it's close to being one of a public opinion.

I certainly condemn pedophilia, but we still have free speech in this country the last time I checked. As such, the individuals who run the website are free to publish whatever they wish, with the expectation that if it is illegal under the law, there will be consequences to be faced. Also, as far as I am aware, we still are entitled to legal representation to defend our rights to free speech which the ACLU does admirably.

I had not heard of NAMBLA before reading this post. Here's the link to the official site: http://www.bway.net/nambla.org/ Although the content is personally abhorrent, nowhere does the website advocate child abuse and murder as described in the americanthinker article. As Google summarizes it, the website's "goal is to end the oppression of men and boys who have mutually consensual relationships".

Jim.

I Agree, The ACLU has been the principal defender of the rights guaranteed to American citizens by the Constitution of the United States. To do this they have had to defend the rights of unpopular people and groups over the years, including the Nazi party and KKK members. They have done this because, as any intelligent person knows, to violate the rights of anyone, no matter how despicable they may be, is to threaten the rights of all Americans.

Today ignorance is fashionable, and many have worked hard at staying ignorant. Fortunately for the future of our country, there are those among us that will fight to preserve our hard won freedoms for the generations to come. No group has done more to preserve our cherished legal freedoms than the ACLU. While the ignorant among us sneer at them, the rest of us applaud them

Shelly

"As Google summarizes it, the website's "goal is to end the oppression of men and boys who have mutually consensual relationships."

It is impossible to have "mutually" consenual relationships, sexual, between men and boys. Children may not consent to activities of a sexual nature with adults. That is why there are laws on the books dealing with stautory rape.

NAMBLA advances the thoughts of sex between men and boys. Beyond disgusting. There is no way, this verbal or written verbiage would be accepted by the founding fathers as free speech.

From my point of view, this type of freedom of speech falls under the same guideline as yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre. As we protect the innocent "crowd" from the "fire" yeller so we must protect our children from the "pedophile".

The ACLU has certainly taken an array of issues beyond the limits of the Constitution. One only has to look at their views on the renaming of Las Cruces, New Mexico or their cases dealing with the removal of "historical" crosses on county and city seals. They are defeating themselves with some of their so-called Constitutional issues.

Their view that our Freedom of Religion means Freedom From Religion is the main reason that I have little respect for the ACLU. In spite of their success in finding judges who swallow the bait.

Freedom of religion is freedom from other religions.

>Freedom of religion is freedom from other religions.
>
Do I find myself agreeing with Myk?

Ethan

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I didn't add "other". If I had to amend I'd say that the ACLU seems to believe that no religion of any type can be mentioned or implied in any way that may have any remote connection to any form of government. My Freedom of Religion means that should I care, I could practice any I wanted. And the same with you. And none of these lawsuits are specifically related to a law that favors a religion. That's what is forbidden in the Constitution. It's a bunch of to infer and litigate that any indication of any religion is un-constitutional. It's the "modern" interpretation of what was meant by the Framers, to hell with the actual wording that was carefully thought out.

Excuse me? Freedom of religion means nothing more than the freedom to choose whatever religion you wish to follow. That includes Atheism, which is the choice of no religion at all. I cannot figure out what part of that the intelligent people like, ahem, Shelly, can't figure out. I am so happy for him that he thinks so highly of himself, but smug is smug and when you reach that point, it is time to take your little nappy and have a scoop of fat free ice cream.

Don't worry, when one of these pedophiles get hold of KJT/Shelly's children/grandchildren, they will change their minds.

Bill K.

>Don't worry, when one of these pedophiles get hold of
>KJT/Shelly's children/grandchildren, they will change their
>minds.
Both KJT and Shelly were putting forth arguments and positions based on widely accepted Constitutional principles. That you now turn this into a personal attack with your disgusting postulation is loathsome.

>Both KJT and Shelly were putting forth arguments and
>positions based on widely accepted Constitutional principles.
>That you now turn this into a personal attack with your
>disgusting postulation is loathsome.
>

Yes, they were putting forth their thoughts. That is their right. What I find loathsome is fully grown males feeling that they have the "right" to seduce young, impressionable boys, in what is known as "ephebophilia" or "hebephilia".

Giving the benefit of the doubt, I feel sure the ACLU has defended morality at some time, but I don't remember seeing it. It seems to be the immoral things that the ACLU always jumps in to defend.

And you are right about your comment, it did come out sounding like a personal attack, even though I did not intend it to sound that way. For that I apologize.

Bill K.

It's the unpopular causes that need a defender. Everyone has the courage to speak for the popular. Abridge the freedom of those people that disgust you, and it won't be long before all our freedoms are attacked. That is how dictatorships are born. Freedom is a fragile thing. Once lost, it is not easily regained.

Shelly

"I had not heard of NAMBLA before reading this post."

What rock have you been hiding under all this time??? Good grief, this is common knowledge.

Forgive me for saying so, but if to retain our freedom means I have to acquiesce to this type of perversion, then I can do without a few things. If things continue in this strain, it will not be long before advocates of child-adult sex (pedophilia) will not be just some fringe group - it will be more accepted. This is what I protest. I just cannot wave the "free speech" flag to every vile group that supports one perversion after another. I mean, where does it end? If, for example, 100 years ago some unfortunate person had ever dared to publicly advocate sex with young boys, or adolescents, the people would have strung him up and left him to rot - and I don't think there would have been a whole lot of people yammering about his "right" to seduce kids. I'm not saying that adults having sex with kids NEVER happened 100 years ago, but what I am saying is that if they did, they kept it to themselves and didn't try to brainwash everyone else into acceptance under the guise of "freedom"and "tolerance".

I am sure the ACLU will have a fit over this.

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